# Incremental AI adoption versus wartime all-in commitment.

**Practitioner:** Eoghan McCabe
**Source:** Lenny's Podcast — Eoghan McCabe episode
**Timestamp:** 0:33
**Move:** 1 of 8

## The tension

Incremental AI adoption versus wartime all-in commitment.

## Where they landed

Extreme wartime — full commitment of capital, identity, and culture.

## What they accepted to lose

Nearly $100M cash allocated to AI. The old SaaS business cannibalized.

## Verbatim

> I said, we need to become a wartime company. If we don't fight for this, we are dead. I jumped hard on AI, but I also restarted the culture.

— Eoghan McCabe, Lenny's Podcast, 0:33

## Load-bearing phrase

*wartime company*

## What it pushes back against

The late-stage-SaaS instinct to treat new technology as additive.

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**Source attribution:** This call is drawn from Lenny Rachitsky's public podcast archive at [LennysData.com](https://lennysdata.com), released April 2026 with an explicit invitation to builders.

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