# Stay as CEO at previous-generation pace versus work AI-native intensity (or hire a kid).

**Practitioner:** Eoghan McCabe
**Source:** Lenny's Podcast — Eoghan McCabe episode
**Timestamp:** 53:01
**Move:** 8 of 8

## The tension

Stay as CEO at previous-generation pace versus work AI-native intensity (or hire a kid).

## Where they landed

Extreme either-or — no middle ground.

## What they accepted to lose

Founder's personal life, family time, comfort. Or: surrender executive control to a younger founder.

## Verbatim

> if founders of previous generation companies are themselves not willing to roll up their sleeves and get into it and work as hard as the kids, hire a kid.

— Eoghan McCabe, Lenny's Podcast, 53:01

## Load-bearing phrase

*hire a kid because you're in the wrong job, buddy*

## What it pushes back against

The assumption that previous-generation founders can compete at AI-era pace without changing their personal intensity.

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**Source attribution:** This call is drawn from Lenny Rachitsky's public podcast archive at [LennysData.com](https://lennysdata.com), released April 2026 with an explicit invitation to builders.

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